Time dependent consciousness

This idea of time-dependent consciousness is not new. But I want to discuss a few approaches you can take to this problem. Namely, T-independent consciousness and T-dependent consciousness.

When we talk about this, we need to talk about what time actually is and how it functions. The problem is, we do not yet have a solid understanding of what time really is. We can only refer to time as a change in something here. Since if there was no change in something, we would not know that time passed, but this definition may or may not apply, as I talked about in one of my previous posts about time and space, they may depend on the observation done within it. It is possible for both of these to exist but not in any sort of meaningful way if not measured by an observer.

So time then, one can take time to be the speed of thought, since as I said in that previous blog post, time and space is as observed or it all happens all at once all together. Going with this idea of "speed of thought" the question of how fast the speed of thought arises, or rather why there is a speed at all. But this is part of the quantification problem so I'll take this as a given axiom since we do not yet have an answer to the quantification problem.

So if time is connected to consciousness and time is the speed of thought that would means that without time there would not be any thought. As they are both 1, but as I explained in a previous blog post, thought and mind is not the same thing, therefore by thought here we need to refer to the some sort of quantifiable thing in consciousness that connects itself to time and space.

The reason why the "speed" applies is since there is no way to determine how "fast" time progresses in a given amount of time. To exaplain this I will use Loop Quantum Gravity and the idea that time is quantized in it. So firstly, if we take the smallest amount of time possible to be a set value, there is no way to measure it as measuring it would result in an instrument going from 0 to 1 without giving us any sort of idea as to how much time is actually in between the 0 and the 1. Since if we start measuring said time in between then we have automatically entered a time, smaller than the smallest possible value of time. Secondly, the idea fails when talkes about how "fast" time progresses. How fast these smallest possible values skip from one to the other, what determines the amount of time, these small periods of times spent within each other before jumping to the next amount of time.

Now to the idea of "speed of thought" the same argument applies, what determines the speed in which we have quantized experiences? But if we do indeed have these quantized experiences in sync with time, why not without sync to time? like explained in the "deja reve" blog post, the math can work eitherway.

So if consciousness is bound with time then consciousness would have to be related to change, in this definition since we are assuming there is no absolute 1 infinitely small amount of time but only a change in time can exist, But the measuring of it could only be done using an already established set to measure this unmeasurable set ,as put forward by the discord user "norabelrose", which inturn, make sense since how can we take a quantized measurement of something with no 2 end points? but the idea of an already exsiting set, would the overshadow the idea that the unmeasurable set and only be measured in quantified measurements as that measurable set is then broken down to some other small sets, and then this goes back to the idea of the smallest amount of time and measuring it.

So in this idea that consciousness is related to time, but there is a problem of measuring and the problem of whether time can exist without any sort of change. The idea of time proposed here is not the same as the idea of time proposed in physics, but rather a metaphysical idea of "flowing", since in physics, time corresponds with some sort of change. But this idea of flow existing without change, can be adressed as I mentioned in the blog post "Relative Time Relative space and consciousness" and how flow can exist all at once all the "time".

Now besides the idea, can time exist without any change, the idea can consciousness exist without any sort of change comes to mind. Here things we can take the idea that time and space is not quantified but only things that exist in it are, and since the things that exist in it exist in all these infinities, the "speed" and which things are happening is also infinite, but only quantified at the "speed" of something in mind that quantifies eveything and not the "speed" of awareness.

As I discussed in the blog post "deja reve" about how there can be infinitely small changes in time, we are going to treat this infinitely small change in time as 1 frame of time (we can always say that even if it's an infinitely small change of time, it is still a small change of time, but for this next argument it is taken to be 1 moment in time, with no change, as we can also imagine such a state of time) . So here an argument pops up in the sense that how can we tell the difference in 2 frames of time, if we weren't aware of those individual frames of time? Which means consciousness exists regardless of the time and is only affected by it. which means they exist together, but neither exist due to something changing but rather existing in a frame with no change.

Which means that time and consciousness do indeed exist without a change, and indeed there is a connection between the 2, but can exist on their own. To further demostrate this, I will use the idea I used in "knowing vs believing". The idea of a "place" with no time and no space but only music and the awareness of music. Here since by definition we eliminate time and the music is indeed quantified but in a frame with no time. Which means quantification can exist regardless of space and time and therefore awareness of something quantified can exist without time or space. Making consciousness time independent.

So consciousness isn't change but is just the awareness of something, this is a definition we can put here as if we talk about the unquantifiable consciousness time doesn't matter anyway and as far as we can test consciousness is indeed the awareness of something, but since the idea that it could be more exists, we will have to keep looking.