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Unquantifiable thought (distinction between mind and thought)

  • Moveen
  • 1 day ago
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A lot of the ideas about consciousness suggests that consciousness is an unquantifiable thing. A strong emergence. If this is the case, there is a question as to why our thoughts are quantifiable. Everything we think about have well defined boundaries, explaining why and how a thought make sense exactly. What things are within said thought and what things are not.


So why are all our actions, our thoughts and our feelings (to a more vague limit but a limit nonetheless) quantifiable? One explanation, coming from a non physicalistic point of view, is because we need to make sense of reality. Perhaps thought wasn't quantifiable to begin with, but as we grew and learned about things and became part of the reality our unquantifiable thoughts took shape and became sensable in reality.


The way then to have unquantifiable thought is to be not associated with a quantifiable reality. Perhaps reducing brain activity as far as we can might as further from reality as we can go. Without actually dying.


In a physicalist point of view, perhaps reality it self isn't quantifiable, or rather, perhaps the reason why reality works the way it doesn't isn't a quantifiable answer. Meaning we know why consciousness is quantifiable and yet we do not knwo why the underlying reason for reality is quantifiable. Perhaps in that case, the end of reality is what leads to unquantifiableness.


If this is the case, the underlying principle is that reducing the amount of quantifiable things lead to an unquantifiable state. Whether it be reducing mental activity or reducing aspects of reality.


UNLESS, mind and thought, qualia are seprate completely, giving the ability for the mind to exist as unquantifiable and letting thoughts and qualia be quantifiable. otherwise we would have a thought, then quantify it, then quantify the experience of said thought, and quantify the experience of the experience of said thought, and quantify the experience of the the experience of the experience of said thought and so on. which make sense since I have had such spirals often. Which then seems like the mind to me. but the distinctions are still there within each segment of that spiral and the question again is how? does an unquantifiable minf have such distinctions, perhaps we know how the quantification of it works, that being through infinity (the infinite spiral) but doesn't explain how an unquantifiable mind can make such distinctions in the first place.


So the problem is how can something which is beyond everything be something? something that is infinity being limited down to something with limits seems incomprehensible. and by these limits I mean are things like bounderies of a thought. The distinction of each one. Why is something so limitless so limitted? unless they are seperate.


But there is another problem, why would unquantifiableness make sense? by definition it is nothing. what is so special about nothing, that we persue it and actively try to understand it? Questions to think about



 
 
 

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